IDPA Rule Chat

[tnpyeron]

I believe that the requirement to re-classify yearly is a bit of overkill, especially if local IDPA clubs are few.

I would like the rule to read along the lines of:

A shooter must shoot a classifier yearly for each Division the shooter wishes to compete in, unless:

the shooter competes in a major sanctioned match within the previous 12 months for that classification.

Ex: Starting February 1, a shooter classifies in CDP, ESP, and SSP.

During the year the shooter competes in 2 major sanctioned matches in CDP and ESP, but did not shoot SSP.

The following year the shooter wishes to compete in a match in March in SSP, but did not re-classify or shoot a major match the previous year. The shooter can not shoot in that division.

If the shooter wished to shoot CDP or ESP, he would be allowed to compete since he shot a major sanctioned match within the previous 12 months.

I think this would boost membership and match participation and it would also cut down on "sandbagging". Since anyone can sandbag a classifier but who would want to sandbag during a major match when it may have cost a couple hundred dollars total to participate?


Terry Pyeron
A21886

[Jim w]

I would go simpler than that. If you have not recently classified in a given division, then you will be placed in your highest classification for whatever other division. Also, you will not be classified more than one level higher or lower, division to division.
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Jim Watson
A00177
Captain, Team Mediocre

[DonCannon]

[tnpyeron]

I agree with that also, but I feel that being within one division for the revo divisions should be the only exemption. I shoot EX in the Autos, but I am MM in revos.

The other heartburn I have with the classifier is that a shooter can burn it down, get classified as an expert or master and never be able to compete at that level.
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Terry Pyeron
A21886
Northern Virginia

[nwb01]

what about doing something similar to USPSA ?? Take portions of the classifier as there own individual stages. Take your times on those stages and compare them nationally against all the shooters in IDPA.

I haven't thought it out completely but I know that more brains are better than one.

anybody??
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Nick B.
Toledo, OH
A26779

[Jim w]

The First Annual IDPA Championships, 1997 included the Classifier as part of the match because the organization was so new, a lot of us had not had the opportunity to shoot the Classifier at home. I thought it a good idea but the Classifier is so long, it comprised three match stages.

They later put in the requirement that the Classifier had to be shot straight through in order, which made it very difficult to include in a match. The 2007 Summer Sizzler incorporated the Classifier in the match (it was a two day 24 stage match, plenty of room for the Classifier) but could only list results for information, it was not allowable for reclassification.

If I were the Classification Boss, I would devise a shorter Classifier - I once saw a 54 shot CoF that would cover everything the present 90 does - and REQUIRE that it be shot in sanctioned matches that claim the State or Regional Championships.
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Jim Watson
A00177
Captain, Team Mediocre

[jane]

[Jim w]

Because the Sizzler scattered the Classifier stages out as bay space was available. You shot them as you came to them over the two days depending on the layout and where your squad started. This contravened the requirement that:

"If the classifier is part of a scored match or the shooter is
trying to attain a five (5) gun award, no re-shoots are permitted and
it must be shot as one continuous ninety (90) round course of fire."

Picky, picky, picky.

But they did total the scores up separately and post them color coded so you could see at a glance if you shot it above, below, or at your current classification. Not usable for reclassification, darn it; I would have moved up to Expert... and never won anything again. But would have had the title.
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Jim Watson
A00177
Captain, Team Mediocre

[Brad Schilling]

Yeah, I really liked how the Summer Sizzler broke that out in color.

Ya got to see who was sandb...I mean underclassified, classified correctly, and who was overclassified.

Brad Schilling
A21047
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Competition doesn't build character. It reveals it.

First person camera views of me shooting matches can be found here:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=posercam&emb=0&aq=f#

I call it the posercam.

[RickB]

I'd just like to see a classifier that more accurately reflects the manner in which skills are applied in match competition. I might shoot an entire season and never see a 20yd shot, but there's 18 of them in the classifier.
I suspect I'm an oddball, in terms of my classification vs. match performance, but I shot the classifier three or four times a year between 2001-2007, trying to move up to Expert, won SS in sanctioned matches three times in that stretch, but couldn't get within ten seconds of Expert shooting the classfier.
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A07876

[jane]

I don't shoot a lot of matches, Rick...
But FWIW, I've shot three sanctioned matches in the past year and a half that had targets at 35 yards.
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Jane A16849

[Gunrunner]

[RickB]

Twice in CDP, and once in ESP; I did beat enough people in '07, both SS and EX, to get bumped.
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A07876

[RickB]